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hello, i'm libby casey. the capitol has been buzzing with high profile congressional hearings on nsa surveillance and the problems with the dare's rollout. in the halls of congress there's a heavy weight lobbying campaign under way to push comprehensive immigration reform. it's week applied by the chamber of commerce is forward.u.s. among others. it's a group founded by facebook's mark zuker berg. >> house democrats introduced their reform. we'll talk with congressman jeff denham, the first republican to join with democrats as a bill respond sore. >> president obama spoke to a room full of advocates at the white house on thursday in hopes of bringing the senate's im grayings bill back into the -- immigration bill back into the spot light.
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>> it doesn't make sense to have 11 million people in this country illegally an incentive to come out of the shadows, get right with the law, meet their responsibilities and permit ahead. >> the border security you economic opportunity and immigration modernisation act passed in the senate in june 27th. it's in the hands of the house. it features border security, doubling border patrol with a boost in funding and mandatory use of force training. a pathway to citizenship, establishing a 13-year pathway to citizen ship and includes security benchmark before they can get a green card. it increases high tech and low-skilled worker visas, requiring a workplace verification system. and law enforcement. detailing protection for workers
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and refugees, and what happens if an immigrant breaks the law. a poll conducted by a university a month after the bill found that 64% of americans supported the reforms. and 31% did not. on the heels of a government shutdown health care exchange errors and a string of revelations on nsa wire tapping of foreign allies - the push for a vote has been tossed on to washington's backburner. but special interest groups are rallying to reverse that, and national alliance of more than 600 business and conservative leaders from around the country begin a lobbying effort at the chamber of commerce hosting a pan 'em discussion on the bill's potential economic impact. they met with 150 house republicans on the fence. the congressal hispanic caucus is pushing for a vote, holding a press conference that week. >> the question is when will the house republican leadership
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allow a vote on the floor of the house of representatives for us to pass a commonsense reform of the broken immigration system. >> republican house speaker john boehner tiptoed around the topic, torn between warring factions within the party. >> i think immigration is important. addressed. >> many house republicans are hesitant to vote on any immigration bill, they fear it could turn into a road for amnesty. only three gop representatives are joining with democrats to respond sore reforms. the house has its own processes. >> joining us from capitol hill is congressman jeff denham, the first republican house member to come out in support of the democrats version of immigration reform. evening. some republicans in your kauk us are talking about taking a piecemeal approach, rather than a comprehensive effort that you
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are working on. they say pass a border security, then worker visas and we'll get to other parts as time goes on. piecemeal. >> it's a bipartisan bill. one of the things i have been working on is to have amendments accepted under this, dealing with the republican border security bill as well as a number of other measures in the senate bill. they have accepted my enlist act, the fastst pathway to citizenship. if you want to serve as many immigrants have, you ought to be able to gain citizenship. you have to discuss the reform package. my concern is we'd be passing one part of reform, and waiting a decade or two decades and increasing the type of program that we have today. we need to address all aspects of immigration, securing our border, internal security,
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verifying who is working and making sure we have americans applying for the jobs first. ultimately, we have to have a pathway to citizenship. >> amnesty is a poison pill word. how do you convince fellow republicans that a pathway to citizenship is different to amnesty. >> we have amnexty today -- amnesty today. doing nothing is amnesty. this bill is a 6-year process. you have to pass a background check, pay backfine, backtaxes and speak english. after six years you apply a second time for provisional status, and then after 10 to 12 years you can file to become a legal permanent resident. you have to be in the country the entire time. you have to go through all of these different ways to earn the citizenship and make sure you have not broken any laws. if you have been employed during the entire time, we ought to be looking at a pathway to
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citizenship to get people out of the shadows and coming forward to be part of her solution on the economy, part of the solution on medicaid and social security. >> you mentioned you are a veteran yourself and you are looking at that component on getting those that served in the military on a pathway. what are you hearing from business leaders, people in the agriculture community and undocumented immigrants living in your california district? >> there has been a lot of uncertainty in california, everything from ag to labour force and high unemployment rates. we need to solve the issues with immigration reform. from an economic standpoint it's a trillion over the next two decades. we were here after the shutdown dealing with 17, 18 trillion of debt. this is something that can help us through that. on a local level we need to make
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sure we address immigration from an employment stand point. we have kids at school, into our colleges. we need a pathway for citizenship not only for the dreamers, but that we have gainful employment. >> what are the chances of your bill getting to the floor. we saw the hassett rule or guideline broken during the debt-ceiling debate. this is a rule saying a speaker does not bring a bill to the board unless he has the republicans on board. that doesn't look likely. any chance of this coming to the floor so a bipartisan group can vote on it. >> our goal is to get as mane recans on the bill. the closer we goat to 218 -- get to 218 votes, but the overall immigration debate comes to the floor in a full fashion. that's what we need, a full debate in front of the american public to show what the bills do - whether individually or a comprehensive bill.
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it will not only be up to individual members, but up to the american public to define. >> who has the laudest voice and important voices - you and your col eegs listen to - is it the business community, dream e the young people brought to the country - who has the ear? >> i don't think it's one group in particular. one thing that is different is immigration is different from district to district, from state to state. one thing that is constant is the faith based community and the public safety community. both von aggressive throughout the nation, talking about the impacts of immigration. it's important for business communities and dreamers and those that are effected directly. there's nothing like having the faith-based community throughout the nation sending the same message to individual members. forward. >> do you feel like a trailblazer, the first
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republican to get on board with the bill. >> i know it's something that has to get done. it's something i feel in my own family, in our community. i'm elected to be a leader. i expect to see more leaders willing to step forward. i had a number of members coming to me afterwards saying, "look, this is not something i have had to deal with in my district. tell me why it's important." we are having a dialogue, that's what we need to do." >> what is the crucial timeline. we talk about immigration reform being too close to an election or too far away from an election. what is the golledy locks moment when -- golledy locks moment when action can happen. >> this is it. we believe it has to get done. leadership has committed to bringing immigration to the floor. the challenge with the bill is there's no deadline, no fiscal cliff, no debt ceiling day that we run out to, not like the farm bill where milk prices go
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through the roof. unfortunately when we have issues like syria come up, this is an issue that is pushed further and further out. we are aring drawing a line -- we are really drawing a line in the sand saying, "it has to get done." we have less than three weeks to address it and we need the nation to focus on it. >> thank you for joining us. we'll take a break. when we come back a panel discussion on the push for comprehensive immigration reform. (vo) gripping films from the world's top documentary directors. tomorrow: it seemed like a normal adoption >> do you think this family has a lot of secrets?
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>> it's like there's an open book as far as the family goes. >> (son - off screen) i fully believe that i was adopted by strangers. (vo) until one day ... >> (son - off screen) i found out everything i thought i knew, was a lie. (vo) al jazeera america presents open secret determining using some sort of subjective interpretation of their policy as to whether or not your particular report was actually abusive, because if it doesn't contain language that specifically threatens you directly or is targeted towards you specifically, they may not consider it abuse. they may consider it offensive. and in that case they just recommend that you block that person. >> i don't want to minimise this, because i mean, there's some really horrible things that are on line, and it's not - it's not just twitter, what has happened through social media and the anonymity of the net is
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that you see websites, hate-filled websites targetting all sorts of groups, popping up. there has been a huge number of those that exist as well. reform welcome back to "inside story." we are discussing immigration reform and the loggying efforts to get a bill through. joining us now are gabby, director of the bridge project, and bipartisan proimmigration reform group. and marty, executive vice president ever the u.s. chamber
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of commerce. and journal. >> you reported that president obama is beating the drum on immigration reform after other distractions. you wrote until republicans move it is not going anywhere. how significant is it that we see a handful of house republicans, three, signing on to immigration reforms? >> it is significant but other republicans in the house want to see an immigration reform pass. the bill that the three republicans dine, and jeff depp am is one. they signed a democrat sponsored bill introduced by the minority leader nancy pelosi, with the co-sponsorship of the democratic kauk us. it's meant to be a democrat opening bid to say, "we are ready to work on immigration, are you?", when i saw it introduced i thought there's no way that republicans will do
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anything on this, because it looked very partisan at the beginning. to have a couple of republicans put their name on it - that doesn't mean they are trying to buck the speaker or trying to rebel against the leadership. what they are saying to their constituents is, "i care about the issue, and putting my name on it meant i'd like to do something. if the speaker decides to do something, i would be more than happy to move forward." >> what are the deal breakers. when you talk about immigration reform, what does it mean? >> for us, it's an economic issue that shouldn't be surprising as a business association. on both extreme ends of our sis. there's not enough high skilled workers with advance degrees, particularly in science technology, engineering and math mattic and agricultural jobs and hospitality jobs. we are a big tourism and agriculture state. they are having a hard time filling the positions.
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they need to harvest crops, things they need to keep businesses running and grow and expand and create jobs. they are having a hard time to do that. we don't have the labour that's qualified to do the jobs. without the labour it's a hurdle for the economy. >> how representative have republicans been in your state about? >> they understand the issues we face m one thing that is clear, especially on the trip to washington dc, that several business leaders from our area took this week, is the members of the delegation under the issue, that they understand it as well if maybe not better than some of our business leaders. but they are facing opposition in other areas that makes it difficult to proceed. they know what the right thing to do is. they want to move forward. it's a matter of how can we do that, coming to an agreement with all parties. leverage. >> well, it's the reality that
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the american public, when you g look at immigration and you disclose a little information of what marty was talking about, the economic impact on immigration - people are in favour of it, more than ever before. so that is the lefr rig. the other is the 2012 elections, which we are forgetting about as we get closer to 2014. the reality then was that it was a hum population of -- huge population of latinos in florida, california, utah that made a difference in the elections. the more and more republicans that have latino constituents saying and pushing on immigration reform, the more you see people like denham and others coming out and saying i want to do this because my constituents are asking me. >> these are the republicans signing on to the democratic
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house version. >> i foresee we'll get a lot more. there is about 11 to 12 republicans whose feats are potentially can be taken out because latinos will vote and say, "hey, you are not voting on issues that i care about, which is immigration. >> when you talk about speaking with legislators, members of congress, you talk about giving them political cover. what does that mean. >> we tried to make it as easy as possible for them to take the side of the issue that we are on. we are talking about political cover. we say, "you don't have to lead out, we'll lead out, showing you that there is broad support for comprehensive immigration reform", we had a number of bills pushed through the state legislator a couple of years ago, some we needed to change, and we crafted the utah compact. it's been copied in other states. it laid out the five basic principals to guide the discussion, saying these are
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unintended consequences you may not think about when you hit the national talking points on immigration. we had the business community sign and show strong support for it, and the religious community, as well as other civic leaders - law enforcement as well. by showing broad support for immigration, what we were trying to do was show the members of the house of representatives and at the time our senators, that this is something that the people in our state feel strongly about. you are not going out on a limb and supporting this, we are trying to be as loud as the vocal opposition. >> we'll take a break. when we come back we'll talk about immigration reform and its prospects. >> i'm phil torezz, coming up next on techknow. >> hike! >> america's favorite sport is under fire. >> now, that impact simulated 100 g's of acceleration in your brain. >> it's the opponent no player
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